Under rated pornstars

[JaydenJaymes]

Yes, Jayden is good. But everyone knows Jayden is good. But....... Jayden is also a raging bitch on wheels. Those AVN awards are as much about politics in the business as they are about who's actually the best. Jayden makes a lot of fans happy. She also pisses a lot of them off. She also pisses off a lot of co-stars, directors and producers. Her leaving is prima-facie evidence of her childishness. She didn't get best new starlet so she's quitting? Give me a fucking break. Some people don't know when they have it so good. She's a top demand, A list star who can get paid just to show up and hang out. Look at all the drama she tried to start with Rachel Starr dragging their old personal shit onto a porn forum to deliberately try to make Rachel lose fans. No sir, she's not underrated. She's the Terrel Owens of porn.

I love when y'all THINK you know me.
I tried to ignore it, but I've gotta put it out there.
You're right... I do what I can to please the fans and they're usually happy. The only time I 'piss them off' is when they disrespect me. I put them in their place when needed. Regardless of a person's job, they deserve respect.
As far as pissing off 'co-stars, directors and producers'... Ha! I'm always nice to people on set. And, if I don't know people, I usually keep quiet. Co-stars end up hating me because I say what others think: she gave a bad performance, her hygiene is horrible, etc. I've never been a bitch just to be a bitch. Yes, it's in my blood, but I give everyone a chance! As for directors and producers... funny, cuz most of my friends in this biz are directors and producers. The ones that hate me are the ones that have tried to push me around (like they do the other girls) and (unlike the other girls) I stand up for myself. If the guy's being a jackass, I tell him to fuck off. Bitchy? Maybe. But, once again, it's about respect.
I am not leaving because I didn't get the AVN. If that were the case, do you think I would've left WHEN I didn't get it? I want to retire from performing because I've been around for 2 1/2 years and I'm tired! I actually have plans beyond fucking and I'm working really hard on these projects. Plus, (my number one reason) most of the girls (I'd say 90%) are escorts. They're worse than the guys. They're just dirty. Girls are doing guys outside the biz that aren't tested, without condoms, because they were offered a couple hundred bucks, and that spread diseases! I don't want to put myself in that position anymore. This industry is a bunch of fucking hookers trying to legitimize themselves by doing it on camera. (Now THAT would qualify as 'pissing off co-stars.)
So, what about those like me? I don't escort. I don't blow directors/producers. I actually want to take advantage of the business aspect of the industry and make some real money! Is it 'bitchy' of me to push myself to succeed and not let any of the assholes stand in my way? Maybe. But a good business woman is always considered a bitch. If that's the reputation I get for standing up for myself and not being a whore, so be it.
And for those who want to go the whole "You fuck on camera for money, you ARE a whore' route... Really?! Ever hear of a JOB? I show up, turn into a nympho for the camera, and go home. If you ever met me outside of a set, I'm in sweats with no makeup on. I don't flaunt what I do. I have a good time, but it's not about sex for me. I don't drop my panties for anyone. I've been dating a guy for three weeks and still haven't slept with him! What I do is a job, and it's just that. I treat it as a job and not a party, like most. I make my money and get out. I'm not at lame porn parties, getting drunk, doing blow, hooking up in the bathroom and getting caught up in the drama like the rest. Bitchy?
And the whole Rachel thing. I'll admit, I take it kinda far, but I really don't like her. I'm not trying to hurt her career or mine or anything. I actually used to like her. She started dating my ex, we did a scene together, and she was nice. I was actually happy he was in good hands. But, when I hear that they split and she's now escorting... Really?! You move in on my life and my man and take everything from me, and it turns out that you're just another hooker?! THAT pisses me off. Yes, he's at fault, too. I know. I don't want him back. But I just don't like hookers. (Once again, the number one reason I'm through with performing.)
Call me a fucking cunt, I really don't care. Just know exactly what you're referring to.

[notkindred1]

See this is exactly what I'm talking about Jayden. It's one thing to stand your ground and stand up for what you believe. It's quite another to be an absolute bitch. You cross the line too many times imo. You talk about it being a job and being professional, then you drag your personal life into it. Imagine if you worked for a regular corporation who hired Rachel and you went off on forum spouting the shit that you did where that corporations customers can see it. Can you say out of a job for starting drama? And when Rachel refused to bite you kept on and on, for days. You did the same shit with Christian. He tried leaving you be and you went looking for him to call him all sorts of shit. Now yes, I know I've been guilty of fucking with him on forums too but we aren't talking about me. I've seen you start shit on forums with other performers, flame fans, diss directors and producers and a host of other things I don't even have time to get into. You're view on life is completely egocentric. You don't have to alienate people in order to be strong. Did it every occur to you that the guy is the one at fault here and he snowed BOTH of you? No, of course not, you're Jayden fucking Jaymes and you're obviously WAY too smart for that.

[usmcjoe]

See this is exactly what I'm talking about Jayden. It's one thing to stand your ground and stand up for what you believe. It's quite another to be an absolute bitch. You cross the line too many times imo. You talk about it being a job and being professional, then you drag your personal life into it. Imagine if you worked for a regular corporation who hired Rachel and you went off on forum spouting the shit that you did where that corporations customers can see it. Can you say out of a job for starting drama? And when Rachel refused to bite you kept on and on, for days. You did the same shit with Christian. He tried leaving you be and you went looking for him to call him all sorts of shit. Now yes, I know I've been guilty of fucking with him on forums too but we aren't talking about me. I've seen you start shit on forums with other performers, flame fans, diss directors and producers and a host of other things I don't even have time to get into. You're view on life is completely egocentric. You don't have to alienate people in order to be strong. Did it every occur to you that the guy is the one at fault here and he snowed BOTH of you? No, of course not, you're Jayden fucking Jaymes and you're obviously WAY too smart for that.

wow, this is going to get real heated soon!

[usmcjoe]

Plus, (my number one reason) most of the girls (I'd say 90%) are escorts. They're worse than the guys. They're just dirty. Girls are doing guys outside the biz that aren't tested, without condoms, because they were offered a couple hundred bucks, and that spread diseases!

I actually want to take advantage of the business aspect of the industry and make some real money! And for those who want to go the whole "You fuck on camera for money, you ARE a whore' route... Really?! Ever hear of a JOB? I show up, turn into a nympho for the camera, and go home. But I just don't like hookers. (Once again, the number one reason I'm through with performing.)
Call me a fucking cunt, I really don't care. Just know exactly what you're referring to.

Wow Jayden! I have question... Did you just figure it out that most pornstars are escorts? Your a smart girl, so i think you knew that before, right?

You know how you say "I actually want to take advantage of the business aspect of the industry and make some real money!" Well im no expert, but I could see how some escorts, to them, it would look like a job to them too. They are doing it to make some money..right? Just like pornstars, to make money...

And Jayden i love how you say, you hate hookers! It amuses me.. Cause it boils down to the same thing. Which is, Both escorts and pornstars fuck for money, correct? I know i saw that some where LOL...The only difference is, is the camera.

Now FYI, i dont have a problem with what people want to do in their life at all. I dont look down upon any job...a Job is a job..Do what you gotta do......but when you look down upon someone who is basically in the same profession is you...(which is to fuck, to make money, and get out) that makes me laugh..the only difference is (the camera) big deal...There is a crowd watching you fuck...or its in private between you and the guy...to make money..its the same...
but you wont admit that..and i know that....

I hope Jayden, you will be happy in wherever your heart leads you.. I mean that sincerly.

[TheFranklin]

Wow Jayden! I have question... Did you just figure it out that most pornstars are escorts? Your a smart girl, so i think you knew that before, right?

You know how you say "I actually want to take advantage of the business aspect of the industry and make some real money!" Well im no expert, but I could see how some escorts to them, it would look like a job to them too. They are doing it to make some money..right?

And Jayden i love how you say, you hate hookers! It amuses me.. Cause it boils down to the same thing. Which is, Both escorts and pornstars fuck for money correct? I know i saw that some where LOL...The only difference is, is the camera.

Now FYI, i dont have a problem with what people want to do their life at all. I dont look upon any job...a Job is a job...but when you look down upon someone who is basically in the same profession is you...(which is to fuck, to make money, and get out) that makes me laugh..the only difference is (the camera) big deal...There is a crowd watching you fuck...or its in private between you and the guy...to make money..its the same...
but you wont admit that..and i know that....

I hope Jayden, you will be happy in wherever your heart leads you.. I mean that sincerly.

I highly agree with you and notkindred1. Two very strong statements. The only difference between being a hooker and a pornstar is the camera.

[MissSnoogans]

Marine Joe,

I think you missed her point about why she calls other pornstars that escort hookers. She is saying they fuck these dudes without condoms. Which could very well endanger the other pornstars with those STDs.

Keep in mind I'm not taking a stand either way cause it doesn't effect me.

[usmcjoe]

Marine Joe,

I think you missed her point about why she calls other pornstars that escort hookers. She is saying they fuck these dudes without condoms. Which could very well endanger the other pornstars with those STDs.

Keep in mind I'm not taking a stand either way cause it doesn't effect me.

It doesnt affect me either

Well see the thing is, when a girl/guy persues to be a pornstar, Im pretty sure they would know that before going down that line...I mean they would have to be complete idiots to not know that...Yeah, and pornstars are tested for the most part..but shit, they fuck without condoms all the time, nowadays..so there is always a risk that some disease could be caught regardless..

but she gets mad..when other people call her a whore..and anyone being a whore or not would take offense to that.. The same thing is...escorts/pornstars fuck for money...call it what you want...but its true..

But i wouldnt be on here chatting with pornstars...if i thought less of them..that would be stupid and ignorant..just FYI on that one too

[notkindred1]

The thing is that Jayden has nothing more to base whether these girls who escort are fucking without condoms than we do. It's all hearsay. She's not there, at least I doubt she is, when the act is taking place. So all she knows is what people say, just like the rest of us. Now I will concede that fucking these untested guys is a bigger risk than fucking tested guys, but these girls are still coming to work with a valid AIM test.

[!!!!!!!SHAMELESS!!!!!!!]

Rucca Page
Adrianna Nicole
Kaci Star

Jenna Haze???
*alright who typed the questionmark on the teleprompter

[colombia50]

Jayden, I am sad to hear that you are leaving the biz. You are definitely one of the top performers in the biz. You have to do what makes you happy. I have to disagree with you on the whole escort statement. There is no difference with what you do and what they do. Pornstars and escorts get paid for having sex. I have girlfriends that do escort for a living, but they also have a goal to save money and either go to school or open up a business. You are just bitter about the whole Rachel Starr shit. I actually had a disagreement with Notkindred1 about this on another thread. I actually took your side on this,that was before i found out you still keep in contact with the asshole that caused this bullshit. I agree with NotKindred on this. Women should not ever fight over some fucking asshole. I hope you find peace and just let all this anger go. The Fucking asshole is not worth it. Good luck!

[FCA_PIMP]

This shit turned from most under rated thread to a smackdown thread. I believe both sides have good points. I believe Jayden is right in that pornstars and hookers are not the same. Yes they do the same acts but without the camera. A pornstar for the most part in some way gets enjoyment out of there work. Where a hooker for the most part is just there for the money and doesn't care if u had a good time or not as long as she gets paid. In closing JAYDEN ROCKS.

[BiVakaFunkdoc]

This shit turned from most under rated thread to a smackdown thread. I believe both sides have good points. I believe Jayden is right in that pornstars and hookers are not the same. Yes they do the same acts but without the camera. A pornstar for the most part in some way gets enjoyment out of there work. Where a hooker for the most part is just there for the money and doesn't care if u had a good time or not as long as she gets paid. In closing JAYDEN ROCKS.

[colombia50]

This shit turned from most under rated thread to a smackdown thread. I believe both sides have good points. I believe Jayden is right in that pornstars and hookers are not the same. Yes they do the same acts but without the camera. A pornstar for the most part in some way gets enjoyment out of there work. Where a hooker for the most part is just there for the money and doesn't care if u had a good time or not as long as she gets paid. In closing JAYDEN ROCKS.

What???

[IBELIEVEINPAIN]

jayden jayden jayden. where do i even begin.
first of all, you are a "whore" by definition. you fuck people for money. get real. "hookers are so low brow, they r so dirty , no condoms, blah blah blah."
r u serious right now? give me a break. do u understand that aids and hiv can be dormant in a person for 10 yrs? passing an std test doesnt mean shit. and it sure as hell doesnt mean the guy u r laying down for hasnt been sharing needles with somebody at the gym or doing drugs or whatever and have a disease that isnt an std. so you are no safer than anybody else including myself, in who you fuck. the only difference is that a "real" hooker can walk thru a walmart and not get recognized (most of the time) by somebody saying" oh hey i just watched that gal take a load on her face". what a great thing to be known for. i mean do you even understand that you check ur dignity and self respect at the door when that camera comes on? why are u out here in the forums trying to back talk to a paying customer. do you understand what would happen to a REAL business person if they tried to argue with somebody who writes their check? think about that. if your going to post shit on the internet than at least dont try and defend it to the customer. they dont have to agree with you and you will never win. THEY PAY YOUR SALARY!

dont even start with the whole " im in it for the money/ to be a business person". if that were the case why dont you stop getting plowed and use some of that jizzz money for college or to start a business or do something that can lead to a lot more money than a couple thousand a scene (if you even make that). I dont care about what you or anybody else does for a living. i grew up in san bernardino same as you and we both know that the honor is in the dollar. sell dope, suck dick, or kill. it all is a means to paying the rent. im not bashing being a pornstar. i dont think there is a single person on this forum that would turn down the opp. but dont come in here thinking that you are the sultan of swat or something saying how much better and safer you are and how what you do is so high and mighty. if you stick around, which i hope you do, great. if you dont, guess what, 10 more jaydens will step in to take our money. i used to really enjoy seeing you post in the forums and participate with the members but this shit has to stop. be a business person and promote yourself instead of shitting on everybody else. dont knock the industry that you collect a check from.

seriously consider the negative word of mouth that you are creating and what the consequences could be.

[IBELIEVEINPAIN]

lol at the bf having to go home and jerk off to his gf fucking other dudes...

lolz...

[CaliDude65]

You both are from the Dino? that explains alot hahahahahha j/k I used to work out there.

Seriously though, Pain, I agree with everything you said. And the starlets I have spoken with that do escort on the side require their clientel to wear protection anyway, they don't want to risk their health/bodies or industry work for anything. And the few friends that I've found out that do escort work, also require the same, their not stupid, they just want good easy money just like yourself (Jayden). So no offense intended Jayden but it really just sounds like you are mouthing off to a paying customer AND talking out of your ass, which both together is not a good rep to have. Have a good weekend. OK NOW BYE BYE THEN.

[usmcjoe]

jayden jayden jayden. where do i even begin.
first of all, you are a "whore" by definition. you fuck people for money. get real. "hookers are so low brow, they r so dirty , no condoms, blah blah blah."
r u serious right now? give me a break. do u understand that aids and hiv can be dormant in a person for 10 yrs? passing an std test doesnt mean shit. and it sure as hell doesnt mean the guy u r laying down for hasnt been sharing needles with somebody at the gym or doing drugs or whatever and have a disease that isnt an std. so you are no safer than anybody else including myself, in who you fuck. the only difference is that a "real" hooker can walk thru a walmart and not get recognized (most of the time) by somebody saying" oh hey i just watched that gal take a load on her face". what a great thing to be known for. i mean do you even understand that you check ur dignity and self respect at the door when that camera comes on? why are u out here in the forums trying to back talk to a paying customer. do you understand what would happen to a REAL business person if they tried to argue with somebody who writes their check? think about that. if your going to post shit on the internet than at least dont try and defend it to the customer. they dont have to agree with you and you will never win. THEY PAY YOUR SALARY!

dont even start with the whole " im in it for the money/ to be a business person". if that were the case why dont you stop getting plowed and use some of that jizzz money for college or to start a business or do something that can lead to a lot more money than a couple thousand a scene (if you even make that). I dont care about what you or anybody else does for a living. i grew up in san bernardino same as you and we both know that the honor is in the dollar. sell dope, suck dick, or kill. it all is a means to paying the rent. im not bashing being a pornstar. i dont think there is a single person on this forum that would turn down the opp. but dont come in here thinking that you are the sultan of swat or something saying how much better and safer you are and how what you do is so high and mighty. if you stick around, which i hope you do, great. if you dont, guess what, 10 more jaydens will step in to take our money. i used to really enjoy seeing you post in the forums and participate with the members but this shit has to stop. be a business person and promote yourself instead of shitting on everybody else. dont knock the industry that you collect a check from.

seriously consider the negative word of mouth that you are creating and what the consequences could be.

Wow I agree, just like i said earlier if you scroll up too.. Pretty much I BELIEVEINPAIN hit every topic on this, head on...Everything he said is very true, you cant bullshit what he said....cause its so true... There is nothing to dispute in which he covered....TRUTH HURTS!

[BIGJATPSU]

I love when y'all THINK you know me.
I tried to ignore it, but I've gotta put it out there.
You're right... I do what I can to please the fans and they're usually happy. The only time I 'piss them off' is when they disrespect me. I put them in their place when needed. Regardless of a person's job, they deserve respect.
As far as pissing off 'co-stars, directors and producers'... Ha! I'm always nice to people on set. And, if I don't know people, I usually keep quiet. Co-stars end up hating me because I say what others think: she gave a bad performance, her hygiene is horrible, etc. I've never been a bitch just to be a bitch. Yes, it's in my blood, but I give everyone a chance! As for directors and producers... funny, cuz most of my friends in this biz are directors and producers. The ones that hate me are the ones that have tried to push me around (like they do the other girls) and (unlike the other girls) I stand up for myself. If the guy's being a jackass, I tell him to fuck off. Bitchy? Maybe. But, once again, it's about respect.
I am not leaving because I didn't get the AVN. If that were the case, do you think I would've left WHEN I didn't get it? I want to retire from performing because I've been around for 2 1/2 years and I'm tired! I actually have plans beyond fucking and I'm working really hard on these projects. Plus, (my number one reason) most of the girls (I'd say 90%) are escorts. They're worse than the guys. They're just dirty. Girls are doing guys outside the biz that aren't tested, without condoms, because they were offered a couple hundred bucks, and that spread diseases! I don't want to put myself in that position anymore. This industry is a bunch of fucking hookers trying to legitimize themselves by doing it on camera. (Now THAT would qualify as 'pissing off co-stars.)
So, what about those like me? I don't escort. I don't blow directors/producers. I actually want to take advantage of the business aspect of the industry and make some real money! Is it 'bitchy' of me to push myself to succeed and not let any of the assholes stand in my way? Maybe. But a good business woman is always considered a bitch. If that's the reputation I get for standing up for myself and not being a whore, so be it.
And for those who want to go the whole "You fuck on camera for money, you ARE a whore' route... Really?! Ever hear of a JOB? I show up, turn into a nympho for the camera, and go home. If you ever met me outside of a set, I'm in sweats with no makeup on. I don't flaunt what I do. I have a good time, but it's not about sex for me. I don't drop my panties for anyone. I've been dating a guy for three weeks and still haven't slept with him! What I do is a job, and it's just that. I treat it as a job and not a party, like most. I make my money and get out. I'm not at lame porn parties, getting drunk, doing blow, hooking up in the bathroom and getting caught up in the drama like the rest. Bitchy?
And the whole Rachel thing. I'll admit, I take it kinda far, but I really don't like her. I'm not trying to hurt her career or mine or anything. I actually used to like her. She started dating my ex, we did a scene together, and she was nice. I was actually happy he was in good hands. But, when I hear that they split and she's now escorting... Really?! You move in on my life and my man and take everything from me, and it turns out that you're just another hooker?! THAT pisses me off. Yes, he's at fault, too. I know. I don't want him back. But I just don't like hookers. (Once again, the number one reason I'm through with performing.)
Call me a fucking cunt, I really don't care. Just know exactly what you're referring to.

The amazing thing is you aren't pissed at me for starting all this. Finally, some action in a forum I posted in. Anyway, I never claimed I know you. I just said they were my opinions. The relationship shit, who really cares outside of you and those involved, i.e. the ones really effected. So far as the award, what I was basically trying to say, rather poorly seeing I had just pulled a double, is you were disappionted. I get that your tired, fine, it's your life, by all means live it as you see fit. However, when you do start letting people outside your real life, i.e. us, the fans, you never really know how were going to take it. We don't really know you, and in turn, you don't really know us either. At any rate, still a huge fan, would love a fan sign from you if you got one last Brazzers scene lined up, and I am looking forward to your website and DVD.

[rachel_starr1]

finally it all comes to the surface... I think it's obvious that everybody sees through all the bullshit now!

[loperz102]

hey jayden, if u decide to retire, you should write a tell all book about the shaddy stuff that pornstars do. kinda like the book that Jose Canseco wrote, JUICED. that would be awesome...