Pornstar Punishment

[RedDevils87]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but here goes...

Am I the only one who doesn't really like the Pornstar Punishment site? Most rough scenes that are on PSP I think would be much hotter on other sites. It's not that I don't like rough sex or anal/DP, as I love all those things, it's just the whole concept of "punishment" is lame. I agree with James Deen who said something on his blog about how the hot thing about rough sex is a girl enjoying it and trying to get guys to fuck her rough. The idea of "punishing" a girl just isn't hot to me, and I think most PSP scenes would be much hotter without the whole "punishment" aspect. Focus on girls loving hard sex instead...

I know a lot of people seem to love PSP scenes and I'll probably be in the minority here, but I've always thought it was a very odd choice for a site and ruins a lot of potentially great scenes.

Hopefully this isn't seen as mindless bitching because I love Brazzers overall and I see this as constructive criticism.

[yonybzn]

Can someone tell my how i can cancel my payment ?

[Song]

I see it in other way....

I wonder why ZZ killing that awesome idea. I mean 1/2 of these scenes are not rough. New scene with Sienna West is just another example. This is very good scene but for BBLB or something not for PSP, where is psp in that scene??.It would be nice if someone from ZZ staff would answer little question. Why u guys putting not psp scenes to psp?? because u want make ppl more excited??

[TheBobster]

I have to agree with you TheSongokuu. Im not seeing alot of Punishment happening on this site. I mean that Sienna West scene sucked balls so bad for example and I didnt see that it had ANYTHING that came close to punishing her? I would even bet the Brazzers team probably felt disappointed on this one too.

Maybe change the site dedicated to Rough Sex maybe?

[fireknight]

I agree with James Deen who said something on his blog about how the hot thing about rough sex is a girl enjoying it and trying to get guys to fuck her rough. The idea of "punishing" a girl just isn't hot to me, and I think most PSP scenes would be much hotter without the whole "punishment" aspect. Focus on girls loving hard sex instead...

That's basically what PSP has already become. Most of the scenes are not really about "punishment" anymore. They're just plain "rough" sex scenes. The punishment aspect has been forgotten in most of the scenes. As I've often said before, the way to tell the difference is in how well the girl stays in character by pretending not to want or enjoy the sex. That's what punishment is. Punishment is an undesired penalty or consequence of a wrongdoing. It's not something a person enjoys. If you like it, then by definition, it can't be "punishment." It's just plain regular sex. That's what PSP has mostly become now. The scenes start off as "punishment." Girl does something to piss the guy off. Guy decides to punish girl by forcing her to have sex. Sounds like a good idea that a lot of porn fans like. The problem is that once the sex starts, everybody forgets the whole idea of the scene.

When PSP first started, most of the scenes were really about "punishing" the girl. If you go back and look at the early scenes fom the site, the girls mostly were all good at staying in character and acting like they really were being punished. This is what really got everyone excited about PSP when it first started. But somewhere along the line, that stopped happening, and the scenes started to suck. I don't know whether it's because the girls are just not good actresses, or if they're told not to act too resistant because Brazzers doesn't want to push the envelope too far. But I really wish they would go back to the original formula of it really being about punishment.

[RedDevils87]

If a girl doesn't want sex then it's rape. Sorry, I can't get into any scenes with even a hint of "rape".

[fireknight]

Calm down. It's only porn.

[RedDevils87]

Calm down. It's only porn.

Yeah and porn is about fantasy. Are you saying you fantasize about rape?

For me the main thing that's hot about porn is girls being sluts and loving sex.

[fireknight]

I see that this is about to turn into another stupid porn=rape debate thread. On that note, I'll just leave it alone.

[RedDevils87]

I see that this is about to turn into another stupid porn=rape debate thread. On that note, I'll just leave it alone.

lol how the hell is it porn = rape? I don't think it takes a genius to work out that if the girl is acting like she doesn't enjoy sex, it is basically simulated rape. MOST porn is about the girls ENJOYING sex.

[TheLecher]

If a girl doesn't want sex then it's rape. Sorry, I can't get into any scenes with even a hint of "rape".

That's you. Not everyone will feel the same way.

Are you saying you fantasize about rape?

Suppose for a moment that he does. It's clear that you already understand the distinction between fantasy and reality, otherwise you wouldn't have said "Porn is about fantasy." You understand that porn is about fantasy, and that it is not about reality. So if rape fantasy enters into porn, that is not to say that anyone is advocating or condoning rape in reality. I think it's safe to say that most people believe that adultery is wrong, yet we don't see people up in arms about the storylines on RWS, because we understand that what is wrong in reality can be enjoyed in fantasy without harming anyone. And blackmail is a criminal act, yet we don't hear people complaining when it factors into some of the BTAW scenarios. We, as responsible adults, should be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality, and should understand that what is okay for us to enjoy in fantasy may not be at all okay in reality. People can even enjoy things in fantasy which are truly terrible in reality. That's the underlying premise of all horror movies.

As for whether or not PSP has "lost the plot," I don't think it has. Yes, we've seen some updates in which they didn't stick to the "punishment" theme, and we've seen some updates in which the girl didn't stay in character, and I agree with you that that really weakens the updates, but I don't agree that this has become the prevailing trend. Looking back through the recent updates on PSP, I would say that more than half of the scenes have "punishment" storylines, and the girls stay in character, at least for the most part. I think that there's still room for improvement, but it's still my favorite site on the network.

[fireknight]

lol how the hell is it porn = rape?

That's what you're calling it, not me. To everyone else, it's only porn. If a girl is pretending not to enjoy it, then it's only acting to go along with the fantasy of the scene. That's what the site is supposed to be about. Many women have openly admitted that they enjoy that type of role-playing. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just as healthy as any other sexual fantasy. Is TLIB a pedo site? Is BTAW a sexual harassment site? Is HAM a lesbian rape site? Some people just take things too seriously. If you don't like it, that's fine. But that doesn't make it a crime. It's still only sexual fantasy.

Thanks Lecher. I agree with everything you wrote.

[RedDevils87]

For the record I never said porn was rape and I never said that people who like the idea of rape in porn scenes is advocating it in real life.

I'm just saying for me it isn't hot, and I think most would prefer a rougher sex site which was more focused on the girls enjoying it.

[lobo11]

PSP should hit the Road. Sienna West is to good to be put in the position she was last night. Women are not here to be ruffed up. Brazzers, you are going down fast, your thinking to much and it's hurting your image. Get back to fucking and quit trying to be a production company.

[Song]

shit RedDevils just shut up ,u fire my eyes by ur retarded words...

as for James blog, u can find other post on there where he talk about his psp scene with Nikki Hunter and that after shoot director said "it was amazing man but 90% of it will be cut" or maybe it was the same post i dont remember,

seriously?? If its true i cant see reason to call this site PSP anymore.I wonder why they want turn this site in to another "nice" boring shit?? because few imbeciles like Red said under Shyla's scene that this is sick?? If u dont like it u dont need to watch it right?? u have 13 other sites but im sure 3/4 members enjoy it.

Also i dont understand why they booking girls like Sienna,Lisa Ann and others to PSP?? if girl cant handle it she shouldnt be on it this is simple but its all about marketing. We wanted Sienna on PSP so we "got it" , who cares if its totally bs and they doing that BS with other girls all the time.Lets say it clear after Shyla's psp this site going down. We have few good scenes after but its still going down. I understand that its hard doing it all the time like Shyla's (and it not need to be doing like that all the time) because there is only the one queen but it not means that ZZ must doing it totally soft and boring right??

[fireknight]

For the record I never said porn was rape and I never said that people who like the idea of rape in porn scenes is advocating it in real life.

I'm just saying for me it isn't hot, and I think most would prefer a rougher sex site which was more focused on the girls enjoying it.

There's an audience for both. I think it's fair to say that PSP is probably the most popular site on Brazzers right now. But even if you read the scene comments for PSP, it's clear that many members prefer that the site live up to its "punishment" name. I don't see the point of having a "punishment" site if it's not really going to be about punishment. I just wish it would stick to its theme in every scene.

I also like the fact that Brazzers has high-quality productions with good scripted storylines. That's part of what makes Brazzers a great site that sticks out from the rest. That aspect of the site doesn't need to change at all. As for the Sienna West PSP scene, I didn't watch it. If the trailer doesn't interest me, then I usually don't bother watching the actual scene. And from what I've read about it, it doesn't sound like it was a good scene for PSP.

[tgghpg1]

Think it might be the first time, but i actually agree with Song. There are some girls that will be able to take the punishment and stay in character, and those that won't. The site isn't going to be for every girl, and it might even benefit from dropping the updates to 2 a month, but just making sure that the talent they are getting can both take the punishment and act the part. Having said that i do enjoy some of the PSP updates as just standard scenes, so i personally i'm not that bothered by it. But there are a number of girls i would like to see used on PSP that may be able to do a more convincing job. For instance the likes of Tory Lane or Phoenix Marie.

[Jack66]

i think for pornstars' punishment they should let one of us fans fuck the pornstar as all the while they would be saying "wtf? this guy sucks!"

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!!!

[nickbeam37564]

I bet the reason the punishment aspect has been forgotten is that too many white knights complained about it.

[fireknight]

as for James blog, u can find other post on there where he talk about his psp scene with Nikki Hunter and that after shoot director said "it was amazing man but 90% of it will be cut" or maybe it was the same post i dont remember,

seriously?? If its true i cant see reason to call this site PSP anymore.I wonder why they want turn this site in to another "nice" boring shit??

I read that same post. If I recall correctly, James also pointed out the fact that PSP is a rough site for Brazzers. What that means is that this is still Brazzers, and Brazzers is only going to go so far. PSP is not at all a rough site. But it's rough by Brazzers standards. When compared to sites that offer real rough sex, PSP would just be another vanilla site. I would like for PSP to be rougher. But the guys that run Brazzers don't seem like they're going to let that happen.

The site isn't going to be for every girl, and it might even benefit from dropping the updates to 2 a month

No way! I'm still disappointed that Brazzers has decreased the number of updates for BBLIB. PSP needs to remain a weekly updated site. No more update reductions for my favorite sites.